Mailing list archives : pcb-rnd

ID:5733
From:Gabriel Paubert <pa...@iram.es>
Date:Sat, 9 Jul 2022 07:33:41 +0200
Subject:Re: [pcb-rnd] file name policy change proposal
in-reply-to:5731 from rn...@igor2.repo.hu
replies: 5734 from John Griessen <jo...@cibolo.com>
 
Just a stupid idea: lht->lyt for PCBs, lyt meaning "layout".
 
For schematics I have no idea.
 
	Gabriel
 
On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 06:13:57AM +0200, rnd2@igor2.repo.hu wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2022, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> 
> >rnd2@igor2.repo.hu writes:
> >
> >> In what situation would you name your initial file foo.pcb when running 
> >> pcb-rnd instead of foo.lht knowing your Makefile expects foo.lht for 
> >> lihata?
> >
> >I wouldn't.
> >
> >> Or are you trying to create a geda/pcb file using pcb-rnd?
> >
> >Nope. 
> >
> >My issue is that I have a lot of existing .sch and .pcb files in my
> >design tree, where those suffixes currently have meaning relative to the
> >content.  While I could of course customize things any way I want, if
> >you change the default behavior of the ringdove suite tools to generate
> 
> You wouldn't need to customize or change anything for your existing 
> projects.
> 
> >.sch and .pcb files with lihata content, I'm confident I'll end up
> >dealing with files that have those extensions and lihata content one way
> >or another .. borrowing designs, trying to collaborate with others,
> >whatever.
> 
> Ok, collaborating is a good point, if you had exisitng Makefiles assuming 
> a certain naming convention and others use a different naming convention 
> you surely would need to rename those files on import.
> 
> >I'm certainly not married to .lht as an extension for PCB designs .. the
> >total number of boards I've created in pcb-rnd to date would take me
> >only a few minutes to rename to match whatever your new default is,
> >updating my "harness logic" as needed to match.  I'd do that work
> >because I like using tools as close to their "default" behavior as
> >possible since a lot of what I work on is done in collaboration with
> >others and any time we customize at this sort of level, it's just making
> >more work in that context.
> >
> >So .. what I hope for is that the default file name extensions for
> >ringdove are "unique" at least as far as avoiding conflict with any
> >existing tools that I, or others already in your user community, have built
> >infrastructure dependencies around, so that I can happily use the
> >ringdove default extensions for the designs I use ringdove tools for,
> >while keeping my big tree of existing design data around... and never
> >(as a human looking at files in directories) be confused about what is
> >what. 
> 
> Ok, so we can't identify any specific technical detail that would break, 
> but you want to both stick to the new default file names and your existing 
> file names. 
> 
> That sounds reasonable as user preference. I wonder if we can find a 
> shorter variant, because my user preference is not to make file names 
> longer. Of coure this would sacrifice the "natural" part, but it seems we 
> need to sacrifice something.
> 
> 
> What about these:
> 
> 1. rcb/rch; symbols could be rym, footprints rfp. So r + second char + 
> last char of the original, sort of replacing first char instead of 
> inserting one. So basically you type the same thing, just replace first 
> char with r. Except for the footprint where we insert r before fp.
> 
> 2. rpb/rsh; symbols could be rsm, footprints rfp. Same idea, but r + first 
> char + last char
> 
> 3. rp/rs; symbols could be ry, footprints rf. So two chars only, r for 
> ringdove, then one for the purpose. If it's non-natural, "unreadable" 
> anyway, why not make it also short?
> 
> 4. bor/sem for board/schematics, sbl/fpt for symbol and footprint (so 
> using totally different characters/terms only loosely connected - 
> guaranteed it won't match anything you ever used in this context)
> 
> 5. pbd/sms for Printed (circuit) BoarD and ScheMaticS, sbl/fpt for symbol 
> and footprint (first char, a middle char and last char, consistently)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Igor2
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 

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5733 Re: [pcb-rnd] file name policy change proposal from Gabriel Paubert <pa...@iram.es>
  5734 Re: [pcb-rnd] file name policy change proposal from John Griessen <jo...@cibolo.com>
    5735 Re: [pcb-rnd] file name policy change proposal from Hannu Vuolasaho <vu...@msn.com>