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ID:4477
From:Majenko Technologies <ma...@majenko.co.uk>
Date:Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:19:21 +0000
Subject:Re: [pcb-rnd] KiCad footprints
in-reply-to:4476 from ge...@igor2.repo.hu
replies: 4480 from ge...@igor2.repo.hu
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The other thing I like about SnapEDA is their library of 3D STEP models.
It's all in one place. Which is nice.
 
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:09 AM <gedau@igor2.repo.hu> wrote:
 
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, Majenko Technologies wrote:
>
> >should be liaising with people like SnapEDA to help them build export
> >modules for their systems to directly create lihata files. It would be
> more
> >convenient for us, plus give us more exposure through the name being
> visible
> >on big platforms alongside other EDA names...
>
> Last time I checked them:
>
> I think they have some internal tool and format they use to produce they
> footprints (and symbols and other data). I think this internal model is
> richer than the data model of the EDA tools they export to - sort of what
> we do with pcb-rnd's data model, a superset of the others.
>
> I think they do not share the internal model or the tools. So the only
> chance to get lihata (or tEDAx) support is to convince them to code it. I
> don't say it's impossible, but knowing our market coverage and knowing how
> much effort it takes to code such a converter _properly_, I wouldn't have
> high hopes. Nevertheless, my policy is, and always have been: I fully
> support such cooperations; as a pcb-rnd power user, if you want to use
> such a workflow, you are in the best position to start this cooperation.
> Contanct them, figure if they are open in general. If they are, I am too,
> and I can support them coding their stuff.
>
> On the ringdove side, I prefer edakrill to spaneda. We could spin it up if
> we could get users like you to start sharing footprints and symbols on
> edakrill. What snapeda seems to provide over edakrill:
>
> 1. they have a large collection - but we can have a large collection too,
> if people submit their footprints
>
> 2. they have a service so that if you pay, they draw you the footprint -
> but we surely can have that too, there are pcb-rnd user freelancers on
> this list
>
> 3. they have self defined standards, I think they do all their material to
> follow those, so you know what to expect - but if there are enough
> _active_ contributors in edakrill, we can make our own standards too and
> just tag the footprints/symbols that comply with specific standards with
> the ID of the standard, so we can very easily have the same.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Igor2
>
 
 
-- 
*Matt Jenkins*
Majenko Technologies
https://majenko.co.uk
 
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The other thing I like about SnapEDA is their library of 3=
D STEP models. It&#39;s all in one place. Which is nice.</div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 27, 202=
0 at 11:09 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gedau@igor2.repo.hu">gedau@igor2.repo.h=
u</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><br>
<br>
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, Majenko Technologies wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;should be liaising with people like SnapEDA to help them build export<b=
r>
&gt;modules for their=C2=A0systems to directly create lihata files. It woul=
d be more<br>
&gt;convenient for us, plus give us more exposure through the name being vi=
sible<br>
&gt;on big platforms alongside other EDA names...<br>
<br>
Last time I checked them: <br>
<br>
I think they have some internal tool and format they use to produce they <b=
r>
footprints (and symbols and other data). I think this internal model is <br=
>
richer than the data model of the EDA tools they export to - sort of what <=
br>
we do with pcb-rnd&#39;s data model, a superset of the others.<br>
<br>
I think they do not share the internal model or the tools. So the only <br>
chance to get lihata (or tEDAx) support is to convince them to code it. I <=
br>
don&#39;t say it&#39;s impossible, but knowing our market coverage and know=
ing how <br>
much effort it takes to code such a converter _properly_, I wouldn&#39;t ha=
ve <br>
high hopes. Nevertheless, my policy is, and always have been: I fully <br>
support such cooperations; as a pcb-rnd power user, if you want to use <br>
such a workflow, you are in the best position to start this cooperation. <b=
r>
Contanct them, figure if they are open in general. If they are, I am too, <=
br>
and I can support them coding their stuff.<br>
<br>
On the ringdove side, I prefer edakrill to spaneda. We could spin it up if =
<br>
we could get users like you to start sharing footprints and symbols on <br>
edakrill. What snapeda seems to provide over edakrill:<br>
<br>
1. they have a large collection - but we can have a large collection too, <=
br>
if people submit their footprints<br>
<br>
2. they have a service so that if you pay, they draw you the footprint - <b=
r>
but we surely can have that too, there are pcb-rnd user freelancers on <br>
this list<br>
<br>
3. they have self defined standards, I think they do all their material to =
<br>
follow those, so you know what to expect - but if there are enough <br>
_active_ contributors in edakrill, we can make our own standards too and <b=
r>
just tag the footprints/symbols that comply with specific standards with <b=
r>
the ID of the standard, so we can very easily have the same.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Igor2<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b>Matt J=
enkins</b><div>Majenko Technologies</div><div><a href=3D"https://majenko.co=
.uk" target=3D"_blank">https://majenko.co.uk</a></div></div></div></div></d=
iv>
 
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