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ID:2463
From:Alain Vigne <al...@gmail.com>
Date:Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:06:33 +0100
Subject:Re: [pcb-rnd] user contribution - experiment - sign up for CUCP!
in-reply-to:2458 from ge...@igor2.repo.hu
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I don't know in which category I fall, but I might want to commit 1 to 3
one hour slots a week...
 
I have no idea if this organization will work, but we can try it.
I know Igor2 is starting early, so morning slots seems better ?
 
Budapest time = UTC+1. I propose:
 
   1. Sunday, 8-9 AM
   2. Monday 7.30-8.30
   3. Thursday  7.30-8.30
 
Join us !
Regards
Alain
 
 
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:04 AM <gedau@igor2.repo.hu> wrote:
 
> Hi all,
>
> we have very good experience with the following combinations of
> contribution:
>
> - dev+own_interest: getting new developers joining and working on random
> parts they like
>
> - dev+porject_interest: new devs working on some parts that need work
>
> - user+own_interest: users testing and reporting bugs they find in their
> own production use
>
> However, we have only limited success with the specific combo of
> user+project_interest: "user doable tasks that are not interesting for
> the given user but important for the project".
>
> We have a growing montain of that sort of tasks, ranging from coordinated
> testing to documentation. See also:
>
> - http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/help.html
>
> - http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/TODO.user
>
> - the export auto-test validation project (which didn't see much progress
> since 2016)
>
> The main problem seems to be time and coordination. As an attempt to fix
> these, we are going to experiment with the following construction in our
> new Coordinated User Contribution Project [CUCP]:
>
> - the User allocates a _regular_ time slot, probably 1..2 hours a week,
> that the User makes absolutely clear of any other task; e.g. "every
> wednesday 6pm to 7pm". Girlfriend/boyfreind/wife/kids/friends configured
> to know this time slot is dedicated to pcb-rnd.
>
> - it is okay if occassionally something real important preempts, but that
> shouldn't happen too often - just pick a time slot that you can dedicate
>
> - the User sings up for the CUCP, tells me the time slot choosen
>
> - before each slot, the User gets detailed instructions what needs to be
> done; these don't require any special skills, just some real basic pcb-rnd
> user level know-how and usually the latest svn version of pcb-rnd. Tasks
> come in real small portions, usually doable in 1 hour.
>
> Benefits for the user:
>
> - visible, appreciated contribution to the project
>
> - regular progress, something you can look back at after months or years
> and can see what you have done
>
> - no responsibilities and complications: you don't need to oversee
> or worry about an overall state of the CUCP, don't need to coordinate
> anything, so there's no long-term responsibility involved. It's really
> just lending your brain & fingers for 1..2 hours a week
>
> - fixed time frame: the CUCP undertsands that you offer that specific
> amount of time, and will not push for more; this task won't grow to eat up
> your free time
>
>
> If you are interested, please contact me. The project needs you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Igor2
>
>
>
 
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I don&#39;t know in which category I fall, but I migh=
t want to commit 1 to 3 one hour slots a week...</div><div><br></div><div>I=
 have no idea if this organization will work, but we can try it. <br></div>=
<div>I know Igor2 is starting early, so morning slots seems better ?</div><=
div><br></div><div>Budapest time =3D UTC+1. I propose:<br></div><ol><li>Sun=
day, 8-9 AM </li><li>Monday 7.30-8.30</li><li>Thursday=C2=A0 7.30-8.30</li>=
</ol><div></div><div>Join us !</div><div>Regards</div><div>Alain<br></div><=
div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue,=
 Nov 6, 2018 at 8:04 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gedau@igor2.repo.hu">gedau@ig=
or2.repo.hu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<=
br>
<br>
we have very good experience with the following combinations of <br>
contribution:<br>
<br>
- dev+own_interest: getting new developers joining and working on random <b=
r>
parts they like <br>
<br>
- dev+porject_interest: new devs working on some parts that need work <br>
<br>
- user+own_interest: users testing and reporting bugs they find in their <b=
r>
own production use<br>
<br>
However, we have only limited success with the specific combo of <br>
user+project_interest: &quot;user doable tasks that are not interesting for=
 <br>
the given user but important for the project&quot;.<br>
<br>
We have a growing montain of that sort of tasks, ranging from coordinated <=
br>
testing to documentation. See also:<br>
<br>
- <a href=3D"http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/help.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/help.html</a><br>
<br>
- <a href=3D"http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/TODO.user" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/TODO.user</a><br>
<br>
- the export auto-test validation project (which didn&#39;t see much progre=
ss <br>
since 2016)<br>
<br>
The main problem seems to be time and coordination. As an attempt to fix <b=
r>
these, we are going to experiment with the following construction in our <b=
r>
new Coordinated User Contribution Project [CUCP]:<br>
<br>
- the User allocates a _regular_ time slot, probably 1..2 hours a week, <br=
>
that the User makes absolutely clear of any other task; e.g. &quot;every <b=
r>
wednesday 6pm to 7pm&quot;. Girlfriend/boyfreind/wife/kids/friends configur=
ed <br>
to know this time slot is dedicated to pcb-rnd.<br>
<br>
- it is okay if occassionally something real important preempts, but that <=
br>
shouldn&#39;t happen too often - just pick a time slot that you can dedicat=
e<br>
<br>
- the User sings up for the CUCP, tells me the time slot choosen<br>
<br>
- before each slot, the User gets detailed instructions what needs to be <b=
r>
done; these don&#39;t require any special skills, just some real basic pcb-=
rnd <br>
user level know-how and usually the latest svn version of pcb-rnd. Tasks <b=
r>
come in real small portions, usually doable in 1 hour.<br>
<br>
Benefits for the user:<br>
<br>
- visible, appreciated contribution to the project<br>
<br>
- regular progress, something you can look back at after months or years <b=
r>
and can see what you have done<br>
<br>
- no responsibilities and complications: you don&#39;t need to oversee <br>
or worry about an overall state of the CUCP, don&#39;t need to coordinate <=
br>
anything, so there&#39;s no long-term responsibility involved. It&#39;s rea=
lly <br>
just lending your brain &amp; fingers for 1..2 hours a week<br>
<br>
- fixed time frame: the CUCP undertsands that you offer that specific <br>
amount of time, and will not push for more; this task won&#39;t grow to eat=
 up <br>
your free time<br>
<br>
<br>
If you are interested, please contact me. The project needs you.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Igor2<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Alain V.</div>
 
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